[10:16PM, 9/9/2015] -Jagmohan: good evening all
[10:17PM, 9/9/2015] -Jagmohan: no change in my yesterday's views/analyses/understanding
[10:17PM, 9/9/2015] -Jagmohan: holding longs.....
[10:18PM, 9/9/2015] -Jagmohan: 3 signals clearly indicating upside
[10:18PM, 9/9/2015] -Jagmohan: as per those, upside just started......substantially left
[10:18PM, 9/9/2015] Mudraa jeneel shah surendranagar gujarat: Any dip left before 8100++
[10:18PM, 9/9/2015] Mudraa jeneel shah surendranagar gujarat: Say of 100points?
[10:18PM, 9/9/2015] Mudraa jeneel shah surendranagar gujarat: Or 8000++
[10:19PM, 9/9/2015] -Jagmohan: possible.....but not definite
[10:21PM, 9/9/2015] -Jagmohan: I suspect expect one volatility.so won't be fearful if one comes......but won't be anxious if it comes at higher altitude
[10:22PM, 9/9/2015] -Jagmohan: any volatility will be good opportunity to add longs
[10:26PM, 9/9/2015] -Jagmohan: not getting big bearish signals I was getting before the start of the fall.
[10:29PM, 9/9/2015] -Jagmohan: also, not heard any "the rise has started" bugle......this may mean 2 things.....we are entering range or the upside from here is substantial even after 250 points from recent lows
[10:32PM, 9/9/2015] -Jagmohan: fii's can sell even in rising markets.....
[10:33PM, 9/9/2015] -Jagmohan: fii's control the throttle of price movement in 4 ways
[10:33PM, 9/9/2015] -Jagmohan: IMO
[10:33PM, 9/9/2015] -Jagmohan: 1. supporting selling
[10:34PM, 9/9/2015] -Jagmohan: 2.not supporting selling but letting it go down
[10:34PM, 9/9/2015] -Jagmohan: 3.supporting buying
[10:34PM, 9/9/2015] -Jagmohan: 4.not supporting buying, but letting it go up
[10:36PM, 9/9/2015] -Jagmohan: sorry, 1 and 3 are expansion
[10:36PM, 9/9/2015] -Jagmohan: 2 and 4 are accumulation or distribution
[10:38PM, 9/9/2015] -Jagmohan: thank you for stimulating my thought process
[10:39PM, 9/9/2015] -Jagmohan: upside likely to be equally crushing and frustrating
[10:39PM, 9/9/2015] -Jagmohan: nobody ready to believe it
[10:44PM, 9/9/2015] Mudraa Guru Mysore: Js ji...so frm outside it will look like long build up ...short build build up....short covering...long unwinding etc...but underneath massive scam goin on...
[10:45PM, 9/9/2015] -Jagmohan: not scam per se but positions being strengthened or created
[10:46PM, 9/9/2015] -Jagmohan: operators (deep pockets) are always working....
[10:47PM, 9/9/2015] -Jagmohan: they don't have the credo line "citi never sleeps" for nothing
[10:49PM, 9/9/2015] -Jagmohan: market spring is stretched on the lower side but I suspect that it will not rebound when you expect, but blow your nose red when you are least expecting.waiting with held breath for that expansion moment which hasn't come even after 250 points.....self talk
[10:51PM, 9/9/2015] -Jagmohan: I get lot of comfort expecting and waiting for the discomfort of operators' surprises
[10:52PM, 9/9/2015] -Jagmohan: expect such a perfect beauty soon
[10:53PM, 9/9/2015] -Jagmohan: helps in positioning my trades, deciding time and size of topups and withdrawals
[10:55PM, 9/9/2015] -Jagmohan: expecting operators to soon cough out what they are chewing
Wednesday, September 9, 2015
self talk
self talk
[9:36PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: good evening
[9:37PM, 9/8/2015] Mudraa Sandeep Chennai: Waiting for your inputs on current market
[9:39PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: expecting minor hiccup and then respectable upside in next few days.holding longs since 7655 and 7740
[9:39PM, 9/8/2015] mudraa ashok tainwalla: Js betaab hain aapke input ke liye....GE
[9:40PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: very interesting setup
[9:41PM, 9/8/2015] Mudraa Sanket Talathi Netherlands: Js ji any targets in mind?? Or on the way??
[9:42PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: very difficult to give target.....maybe 8200
[9:42PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: spot
[9:42PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: gold spot
[9:43PM, 9/8/2015] mudraa ashok tainwalla: So bottom in place for the time being....minor hiccup would range between 7540 and 7688=148 pts....
[9:49PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: slight pain before explosive rise IMO.expecting boring frustrating range followed by a stunning rise IMO in next few trading days
[9:49PM, 9/8/2015] mudraa ashok tainwalla: Howm much can happen in 3 sessions?
Self talk
[9:50PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: second or third session, especially Thursday evening or Friday morning.....who knows
[9:51PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: surprise is the key word
[9:51PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: those who are out likely to remain out.....May be that fast or overnight
[9:51PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: self talk
[9:51PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: thinking aloud
[9:51PM, 9/8/2015] Mudraa Sandeep Chennai: Oh
[9:52PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: traders paralysed on bear side.any hiccup will take even the remaining thinking ability away from them
[9:56PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: patterns emerge slowly.......wait to see........self talk
[9:56PM, 9/8/2015] mudraa ashok tainwalla:
How well you put things.....Salaam
[9:56PM, 9/8/2015] mudraa ashok tainwalla: I would not like to give more than up to Monday 1st half.....
[9:56PM, 9/8/2015] mudraa ashok tainwalla: Wow that's it....so possibility is there
[9:56PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: but they do emerge.....patterns
[9:57PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: positional trading is a wait and watch hunting game......day trading is hot and run
[9:57PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: hit
[9:58PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: positional trading is a siege......day trading....guerrilla war
[10:00PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: positional trading is chess, day trading shooting
[10:00PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: we all are sports persons
[10:02PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: if operators don't buff, they can't beat the masses
[10:03PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: therein lies a big hint.....
[10:03PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: there are....bluffs.....out there
[10:03PM, 9/8/2015] Sub Snjv Feli2: If u follow system u can beat operators
[10:03PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: yes
[10:03PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: system weeds out the bluff or mind doesn't
[10:04PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: our
[10:04PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: mind gets hypnotized, system is dumb and hence intelligent
[10:04PM, 9/8/2015] Sub Snjv Feli2: Yes correct
[10:05PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: dumb traders win, the “intelligent" lose
[10:06PM, 9/8/2015] Sub Snjv Feli2: Good way to make profit make urself offf the screen
[10:06PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: dumb dumb lose, intelligent dumb win.....intelligent intelligent win, dumb intelligent lose
[10:07PM, 9/8/2015] Mudraa Shailendra Sawant: i always feel we are watching a suspense horror movie put our money and enjoy the flick with popcorn but the producer and directors know the end and they make most of the monies
[10:07PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: play it, don't trade it
[10:07PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: shailendra....true
[10:08PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: be the vishwamitra who ducked, dropped and survived the maneka
[10:10PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: options data indicating hammer surprises till expiry....
[10:11PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: current and last series were and are tough.....and were expected to be, looking at the options spread
[10:12PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: not clearly one sided but still heavily one sided
[10:13PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: options spread is a coded map
[10:15PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: operators expected to start accumulating shorts again without bothering that they still have quite a lot of shorts still in their backyards that they accumulated last month.they are looking to redeploy their profits of last 2 weeks to multiply further
[10:16PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: rascals
[10:17PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: this series likely to be the most profitable for operators and hedge funds
[10:19PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: unbelievable premiums on both sides.extremely less options yield on either side. most difficult setup for retail traders.August September pitches are supporting both turn and swing
[10:20PM, 9/8/2015] mudraa ashok tainwalla: So they are withdrawing their funds and making money from deriavities to reinvest at lower levels ....
[10:22PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: I differ ashokji
[10:22PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: they accumulated lot of shorts last 1-2 months.....
[10:23PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: booked some last week or so
[10:23PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: and started to accumulate more now
[10:23PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: they are wise not to kill the golden goose
[10:26PM, 9/8/2015] mudraa ashok tainwalla: So they will accumulate while mkt moves up....and then dump the market.....
[10:27PM, 9/8/2015] Mudraa Sandeep Chennai: This exactly they will do
[10:27PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: they will stop selling.but also not support biting because they will not buy aggressively.but since they are not aggressive sellers, price will go up.they will leech suck the shorts gradually while the unsuspecting retail traders keep buying seeing the stable rising market
[10:27PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: ashokji....right
[10:28PM, 9/8/2015] -Jagmohan: buying.....not biting......typo
Saturday, September 5, 2015
self talk
[7:57PM, 04/09/2015] jagmohanshan: in most of the series one half of the series is non productive.since you don't know which half, your method has to have the capability to withstand that surprise one half and still be in the race to squeeze juice if profit in the second half.....self talk
[8:07PM, 04/09/2015] jagmohanshan: good methods look average in tough times and terrific in good times. bad methods look average in good times and terrible in bad times....self talk
[9:57PM, 04/09/2015] jagmohanshan: fear is an unavoidable essential normal emotion in a trader's life.the more you avoid it, fear it, run away from it the more it will trap you.don't hate fear.manage it.understand it.tame it....self talk
[7:02AM, 05/09/2015] jagmohanshan: most of the traders lose despite being positionally right because they don't have the holding capacity.that's either because their position size is too large, our they are in the wrong instrument or their fear factor is untamed and running unchallenged.....self talk
self talk
[8:09AM, 05/09/2015] Mudraa Prithwis K Das W.Bengal: JS ji how much percent you confident that Nifty will go up Next week
[8:13AM, 05/09/2015] Mudraa jaspreet singh: Prithwi... dont know abt JS paaji.. but when he states.. other grp members get 100% confident... built a repo like that...
[8:18AM, 05/09/2015] Mudraa Prithwis K Das W.Bengal: yes, Jaspret , you are correct
[8:24AM, 05/09/2015] Mudraa Prithwis K Das W.Bengal: @Jaspret : but sorry to say that , yesterday I seen JS ji Nifty view and get confidence myself and take Nifty Fut Long @7710 (average price), but my bad Luck I close @7660, 9 Lot
[8:25AM, 05/09/2015] Mudraa Guru Mysore: [07:56, 05/09/2015] Jagmohan: most of the traders lose for being positionally right because they don't have the holding capacity.that's either because their position size is too large, our they are in the wrong instrument or their fear factor is untamed and running unchallenged.....self talk
[07:56, 05/09/2015] Jagmohan: "lose despite"
[8:25AM, 05/09/2015] Mudraa Guru Mysore: @pritwis
[8:34AM, 05/09/2015] jagmohanshan: very string chance of up move in coming week
[8:36AM, 05/09/2015] jagmohanshan: you can't trade positionally with day trading mindset and you can't and shouldn't day trade with positional mindset.when I enter positional,I keep in mind that adverse vibrations might be there.my entire method and money management and mindset woven around positional.my way dangerous for day trading etc
[8:37AM, 05/09/2015] jagmohanshan: if you have 1-2 days or 50 points patience or backup or preparation Pl don't enter positional.you will be ejected.
[8:38AM, 05/09/2015] jagmohanshan: a good positional trader knows or should know how to benefit for extreme adverse tactical or situational move my operators.
[8:39AM, 05/09/2015] jagmohanshan: any adverse market move is a fixed deposit for a good positional method
[8:40AM, 05/09/2015] jagmohanshan: I started this positional position with out of market option.gradually I'll move in the market.it is a low risk, win win setup.
[8:41AM, 05/09/2015] jagmohanshan: IMO we are at the cusp of positional intermediate reversal
[8:41AM, 05/09/2015] jagmohanshan: as per method
[8:41AM, 05/09/2015] jagmohanshan: cusp is usually foggy.nothing unusual about it
[8:42AM, 05/09/2015] jagmohanshan: who says trading is easy....self talk
[8:42AM, 05/09/2015] jagmohanshan: but it is not impossible
[8:42AM, 05/09/2015] jagmohanshan: if you accept the prepare for the difficulties it is easy
[8:42AM, 05/09/2015] jagmohanshan: accept and prepare
[8:43AM, 05/09/2015] jagmohanshan: if you hear a truth, it is a truth even before proved so
[8:44AM, 05/09/2015] jagmohanshan: have your own truths
[8:44AM, 05/09/2015] jagmohanshan: even a winner can't survive the casino if he doesn't have a backup strategy
[8:46AM, 05/09/2015] Mudraa Prithwis K Das W.Bengal: Sorry JS ji, I have hurt you, I always read your views & myself full confidence of your Nifty views positionally
[8:48AM, 05/09/2015] Mudraa Sandeep Chennai: Js ji
You trade current month or next month?
If current month at what point of time you take a decision to roll over if so how you do that?
[8:50AM, 05/09/2015] jagmohanshan: no no no I'm not hurt or anything like that please
[8:50AM, 05/09/2015] jagmohanshan: I'm always candid and upfront
[8:50AM, 05/09/2015] jagmohanshan: like British parliamentarians
[8:52AM, 05/09/2015] jagmohanshan: my positional method can make money even if any unforeseen disastrous event were to make nifty open tomorrow 2000 points down with me in the longs.market is a spring programmed in time.you have to have a back strategy and a survival kit/plan.
[8:53AM, 05/09/2015] jagmohanshan: I trade current series mostly
[8:54AM, 05/09/2015] Mudraa Sandeep Chennai: Thanks js ji
[8:54AM, 05/09/2015] Mudraa Sandeep Chennai: So u don't hedge?
[9:02AM, 05/09/2015] jagmohanshan: I don't hedge
[9:02AM, 05/09/2015] jagmohanshan: hedging is only for hedge funds for a reason
[9:02AM, 05/09/2015] jagmohanshan: not for retail traders
[9:02AM, 05/09/2015] mudraa ashok tainwalla: Monday gap down should be an oppurtunity...
[9:04AM, 05/09/2015] jagmohanshan: it's not important just to say that I'm short or long.but why how and how much.and with what preparation and backup.devil lies in the details.
[9:04AM, 05/09/2015] jagmohanshan: up and down, gap up and gap down and everything else should be seen as an opportunity, not a calamity
[9:09AM, 05/09/2015] jagmohanshan: “don't have just plan B. you have alphabets till Z"
[9:11AM, 05/09/2015] jagmohanshan: Prithwis, you took position in futures,I took calls.therein lies the first diversion.a big one! with futures you just can't trade with my method.
[9:12AM, 05/09/2015] jagmohanshan: you were likely to be ejected or crushed by any adverse manoeuvre